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Radio 4,17 Mar 2026,14 mins

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As a manufacturing economy, China is very good at making robot bodies. The US on the other hand is dominating when it comes to robot brains. Who will come out on top in the end? In this second episode Misha Glenny moves on from the large language models to focus on agentic AI. This technology allows machines to think and carry out tasks for us - whether it's the lawnmower in your backgarden, a humanoid robot in a warehouse, or a drone swarm on the battlefield. AI that acts autonomously has some very exciting possibilities but it also has some very scary ones. GUESTS: Selena Xu, researcher who works on China AI policy in the office of former Google boss Eric Schmidt Parmy Olson, journalist and author of Supremacy: AI, ChatGpt and The Race that Will Change the World Dr Nick Wright works on cognition, technology and security at University College London Stephen Witt, journalist and author of The Thinking Machine Presenter: Misha Glenny Producer: Ben Carter Editor: Richard Fenton-Smith Studio mix: James Beard Production co-ordinator: Brenda Brown Archive: DW News

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