BRYAN - For you, Ely, Kirsty’s family. Tell us about them and what they mean to her.

ELY - There’s Jamie Campbell’s the dad and then there’s Claire Campbell, her mum, and her wee sister’s Karen, who’s three years younger than her. For me, I mean, I think it at first when I was writing the early Duck Feet stories, my mum was like, “oh, that’s your dad, and that’s me.” And I’m like, “no, it’s not.” And my sister was even getting really annoyed going like, “It’s no you, mum. It’s no you.” And there are similarities like Claire was a sewing machinist. My mum was a sewing machinist. But because, like, I’m ten years older than Kirsty, and Kirsty’s parents are a good decade or so younger than my mum and dad, it gave me the distance to be able to write about people that, you know, were not my parents. As much as we grew up in the same street and we, you know, lived in this, walked the same streets and stuff like that. But, no, I really like the Campbells. I think they really care about their kids. They just want they just want Kirsty and Karen to do better than what they did, which is what my mum and that also wanted. No, it was it was it was fun writing them.